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Poster: Taper Corey Date: Oct 10, 2012 4:51pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: China Cat Sunflower > GDTRFB?

has there ever been a China > Goin' Down the Road?

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Poster: tsnider Date: Oct 10, 2012 5:00pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: China Cat Sunflower > GDTRFB?

Not that I am aware of.

Here are the China Cat > occurrences, grouped by year and the song that followed China Cat if it was jammed out of:

1968 China Cat > The Eleven 4
1969 China Cat > I Know You Rider 8
1969 China Cat > Doin That Rag 2
1969 China Cat > New Potato Caboose 1
1969 China Cat > Top Of The World 1
1970 China Cat > I Know You Rider 34
1971 China Cat > I Know You Rider 27
1972 China Cat > I Know You Rider 65
1973 China Cat > I Know You Rider 52
1974 China Cat > I Know You Rider 21
1977 China Cat > I Know You Rider 1
1979 China Cat > I Know You Rider 19
1980 China Cat > I Know You Rider 29
1981 China Cat > I Know You Rider 24
1982 China Cat > I Know You Rider 19
1983 China Cat > I Know You Rider 21
1984 China Cat > I Know You Rider 17
1985 China Cat > I Know You Rider 16
1985 China Cat > Cumberland 1
1986 China Cat > I Know You Rider 9
1987 China Cat > I Know You Rider 18
1988 China Cat > I Know You Rider 18
1988 China Cat > Crazy Fingers 1
1989 China Cat > I Know You Rider 15
1990 China Cat > I Know You Rider 16
1991 China Cat > I Know You Rider 16
1992 China Cat > I Know You Rider 10
1993 China Cat > I Know You Rider 14
1994 China Cat > I Know You Rider 11
1995 China Cat > I Know You Rider 8

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Poster: leftwinger57 Date: Oct 12, 2012 11:28am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: China Cat Sunflower > GDTRFB?

this is going to sound pretty neive but I never and mean never thought any other song but Know You Rider after China Cat was played.The #s are mostly in my favor but those seven interlopers surprised me. lol

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Poster: vapors Date: Oct 10, 2012 7:15pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: China Cat Sunflower > GDTRFB?

Going by my DeadBase X - nope!
GDTRFB wasn’t performed until 10/70, and after Sept 69 every China Cat is followed by a Rider, with these two exceptions:
http://archive.org/details/gd1985-03-09.sbd.miller.104962.flac16
http://archive.org/details/gd1988-07-29.set2.sbd.russjcan.105341.flac16

This post was modified by vapors on 2012-10-11 02:15:17

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Poster: tsnider Date: Oct 10, 2012 5:00pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: China Cat Sunflower > GDTRFB?

Love that China Cat > Crazy Fingers from 1988...

Here are the shows where there was a China Cat Jam that segued into GDTRFB:

1971-10-27 Onondaga County War Memorial
1971-11-15 Austin Municipal Auditorium
1971-11-20 Pauley Pavilion
1971-12-10 Fox Theatre

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Poster: Taper Corey Date: Oct 10, 2012 5:28pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: China Cat Sunflower > GDTRFB?

thanks. i was thinking how this would be a really interesting to hear these 2 songs

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Poster: Deadhead225 Date: Oct 10, 2012 6:49pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: China Cat Sunflower > GDTRFB?

Yeah. The combinations left undone are among the things that tug at my strings the most. I always wanted a Stranger>Shakedown. A transition between these two always seemed to me to have some really massive potential.

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Poster: snow_and_rain Date: Oct 11, 2012 11:37am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: China Cat Sunflower > GDTRFB?

Love the Estimated> Shakedown from this show.

http://archive.org/details/gd1978-11-24.sbd.ashley-field.32876.sbeok.flac16

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Poster: Old_NJ_Head_Zimmer Date: Oct 11, 2012 12:06pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: China Cat Sunflower > GDTRFB?

Agreed don't know why this was never revisited

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Poster: snow_and_rain Date: Oct 11, 2012 12:15pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: China Cat Sunflower > GDTRFB?

If you watch the video from this show, you can clearly see Bobby mouthing, "What's he doing?" over to Phil when Jerry starts moving into Shakedown. You can then see Bobby say "Shakedown?" and sort of nod his head, presumably after Phil clues him in. Great onstage moment.

Check this video. Starts around 1:49:50

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lVZD9CZ623M

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Poster: Deadhead225 Date: Oct 11, 2012 3:55pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: China Cat Sunflower > GDTRFB?

Yeaaaah.